X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1043" "Wed" "16" "April" "1997" "12:42:38" "+0200" "Hans Aberg" "haberg@MATEMATIK.SU.SE" nil "20" "Commutative Diagrams, math fonts" "^Date:" nil nil "4" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA27292; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:42:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <5.1C8E8AA1@listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:42:30 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 125645 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:42:27 +0200 Received: from mail.nada.kth.se (root@mail.nada.kth.se [130.237.222.92]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with ESMTP id MAA21324 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:42:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [130.237.37.92] (sl12.modempool.kth.se [130.237.37.32]) by mail.nada.kth.se (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA22532 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:42:22 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: su95-hab@mail.nada.kth.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:42:38 +0200 From: Hans Aberg Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Commutative Diagrams, math fonts Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1950 I looked at the Valiente commutative diagrams survey http://www-lsi.upc.es/~valiente/arnhem.ps.gz which contains some really nice examples. What is the state of the matter of making an "official" LaTeX3 commutative diagrams package? -- The thing is that it seems me that one should have at least a simpler type of commutative diagrams package developed in connection with Alan Jeffrey arrows package suggestion (which is at CTAN in the info/ltx3pub directory). On the packages there mentioned (in Valiente's paper), I can note that only the Taylor package has the both arrows extending with labels and arrows extending to meet targets, and only the pstricks package has the nice curved arrowheads one would expect in a good typesetting, but this could be easily implemented in any package by using a suitable arrows font. In addition, a commutaive package must work on two levels: One should be quickly be able to knock out a correct diagram, and one should be able to finetune it, just as with other TeX formulas. Hans Aberg