X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["970" "Mon" "10" "March" "1997" "11:43:21" "-0600" "Randolph J. Herber" "herber@DCDRJH.FNAL.GOV" nil "22" "Re: Shortref mechanism" "^Date:" nil nil "3" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA02320; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:53:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <10.6BA8427B@listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:43:34 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 110960 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:43:26 +0100 Received: from dcdrjh.fnal.gov (dcdrjh.fnal.gov [131.225.103.66]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with SMTP id SAA10563 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:43:22 +0100 (MET) Received: (from herber@localhost) by dcdrjh.fnal.gov (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA28050 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 11:43:21 -0600 References: <199703042232.QAA08157@dcdrjh.fnal.gov> <199703051237.MAA00982@vummath.ma.man.ac.uk> Message-ID: <199703101743.LAA28050@dcdrjh.fnal.gov> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 11:43:21 -0600 From: "Randolph J. Herber" Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Shortref mechanism Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1869 Thank you. I believe that you understand my purpose. You will note that that extended conversation has come to an end (I hope). It went on much longer than I had intended. I agree that the question whether context sensitive grammars are necessary to describe usual markup demands in either a ``comfortable'' (please, feel free to suggest a better description) syntax or in any syntax at all is still an open question in this forum. Sometimes, syntax can be found that permits a context free grammar to be used; but, humans generally find that that grammar is difficult or ``painful'' to use. Randolph J. Herber, herber@dcdrjh.fnal.gov, +1 630 840 2966, CD/OSS/CDF CDF-PK-149O Mail Stop 234 Fermilab, Kirk & Pine Rds., P.O. Box 500, Batavia, IL 60190-0500. (Speaking for myself and not for US, US DOE, FNAL nor URA.) (Product, trade, or service marks herein belong to their respective owners.) N 41 50 26.3 W 88 14 54.4 and altitude 700' approximately, WGS84 datum.