X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2152" "Wed" "19" "February" "1997" "11:34:28" "+0100" "Hans Aberg" "haberg@matematik.su.se" nil "55" "Re: International documents" "^Date:" nil nil "2" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA13607; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:33:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <7.2A6D5853@listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:33:18 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 104239 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:33:12 +0100 Received: from mail.nada.kth.se (root@mail.nada.kth.se [130.237.222.92]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with ESMTP id LAA00065 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:33:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from [130.237.37.152] (sl126.modempool.kth.se [130.237.37.152]) by mail.nada.kth.se (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA05499 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:32:53 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: su95-hab@mail.nada.kth.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:34:28 +0100 From: Hans Aberg Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: International documents Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1826 "Johannes L. Braams" wrote: >At the EuroTeX conference in Gdansk (1994) there was a babel bof. >We came up with a list of aspects of multilingual typesetting: > >\documentclass[a4,11pt]{artikel3} >\usepackage[english]{babel} >\begin{document} > >At the Euro\TeX\ conference in Gdansk (1994) a babel bof was held. >We discussed about what defines a language. >We came up with a list of language attributes: > >\begin{itemize} >\item hyphenation patterns and associated left- and righthyphenmin >\item fontencoding (outputencoing) >\item direction of writing >\item input encoding >\item punctuation >\item quotation marks >\item captions and dates (perhaps several formats of dates) >\item mathematics (ie \tan gives either tan or tg) >\item typographic conventions >\item enumerating >\item ligatures >\item hyphen split (see article from Jiri Zlatuska) >\item collating sequence (|\alph| etc. >\item (conventions for emphasis, but more for document class, > publishing house conventions). >\end{itemize} This seems to be a fairly comprehensive list, when dealing with a language as an standalone quantity. There are two items I want to mention when two or more languages are used together: \item transcribation \item alphabetic search of one language in another There is one item for each pair of languages, but what I have in mind is that a language package should supply where the language transcribed to, and alphabetic search is being done in, is English. The "transcribation" are systems like transcribing Russian letters into English letters, but also translating German umlaut, and Swedish special letters into "oe", "aa", and the like. If you have a bibliographic database, it turns out to be inconvenient remembering all those transcribed diacritical marks, so for that purpose, one would want to have a simplified English (or ASCII) transcribation. For example, the German and Swedish diacritical marks would simply be dropped. (This is better appreciated when doing searches in a language where you do not know what those diacritical martks mean; it is very difficult getting them right.) Hans Aberg