X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["7541" "Tue" "18" "July" "1995" "11:24:19" "-0300" "David Carlisle" "carlisle@CS.MAN.AC.UK" nil "191" "Re: latex/1600: LaTeX2e licensing terms" "^Date:" nil nil "7" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE (vzdmzj.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.16]) by trudi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA10756 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 12:27:31 +0200 Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON by MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE (PMDF V5.0-3 #4432) id <01HT0KK8KKQO90MZ30@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE> for schoepf@goofy.zdv.uni-mainz.de; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 12:27:18 +0100 Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de) by MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE (PMDF V5.0-3 #4432) id <01HT0KK4FFZK8WWA3L@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE> for schoepf@Uni-Mainz.DE; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 12:27:11 +0100 Received: from listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id 43643256 ; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 12:27:08 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV release 1.8b) with NJE id 3349 for LATEX-L@VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 12:26:17 +0000 Received: from DHDURZ1 (NJE origin SMTP@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7175; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 12:24:32 +0000 Received: from m1.cs.man.ac.uk by vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 12:24:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from r8h.cs.man.ac.uk by m1.cs.man.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1:AL5l) id AA02795; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 11:24:21 -0300 (BST) Reply-to: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Message-id: <9507181024.AA20933@r8h.cs.man.ac.uk> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 11:24:19 -0300 (BST) From: David Carlisle Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: latex/1600: LaTeX2e licensing terms Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1695 [This message is CC'ed to latex-l as it may be of general interest, but please in any replies keep the subject and CC fields exactly as this thread is being tracked by our bug report database as latex/1600] Daniel > Further, it's very difficult to check each of several thousand files > for the few which can't be distributed. To extract a single non-free > program in NetPBM (which is a much smaller package than LaTeX2e), it > took me several hours of carefully reading copyright notices. Doing > the same task for LaTeX would take a very long time and the effort > would probably be reproduced by many separate distributors. > Would it be possible for the LaTeX2e core team to ask all contributors > to adhere to the LaTeX2e license (if they want their software to be > included in LaTeX2e)? Please note that the `contrib' areas of the archives are totally out of our control. The archives use them to place any number of contributed files that are LaTeX related. These files have whatever copyright conditions the authors of those files wish. We can only control the LaTeX distribution itself. Note however that the CTAN maintainers have recently started to compile a list of packages on their archives which have conditions on distribution. However in this message I just want to consider the LaTeX distribution itself. Even for the `base' and `unpacked' LaTeX distribution, the current wording of legal.txt would seem to force you to check every file in the distribution individually to see whether or not you could distribute it. It was not our intention to place this burden on redistributors of LaTeX. The proposed version of legal.txt below tries to address this issue (and similar comments raised by Richard Stallman). In particular it has a new section at the end related to the conditions on individual files. Please note that this is a draft for discussion, it should not (yet) be taken as a replacement for the legal.txt in the distribution. David ================================ LaTeX2e Copyright, Warranty and Distribution Restrictions 17 July 1995 (DRAFT VERSION) COPYRIGHT ========= This distribution is Copyright 1993 1994 1995 the LaTeX3 project and the individual authors: Leslie Lamport Johannes Braams David Carlisle Alan Jeffrey Frank Mittelbach Chris Rowley Rainer Schoepf All rights reserved. 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