X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1229" "Fri" "14" "July" "1995" "15:44:00" "-0300" "Alan Jeffrey" "alanje@COGS.SUSX.AC.UK" nil "24" "Re: 4 small packages of basic 2e code made available" "^Date:" nil nil "7" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE (vzdmzf.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.6]) by trudi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA28597 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 17:07:38 +0200 Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON by MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE (PMDF V4.3-12 #4432) id <01HSV95ZKHPS9BVGCL@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE>; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 17:07:14 +0100 Received: from listserv.gmd.de by MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE (PMDF V4.3-12 #4432) id <01HSV95XYEK08WW5UX@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE>; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 17:07:12 +0100 Received: from listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id BB053D50 ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 17:07:14 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV release 1.8b) with NJE id 0811 for LATEX-L@VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:46:36 +0000 Received: from DHDURZ1 (NJE origin SMTP@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1713; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:45:11 +0000 Received: from csrj.crn.cogs.susx.ac.uk by vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:45:10 CET Received: by csrj.crn.cogs.susx.ac.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sWlyR-0001iAC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 15:44 BST In-reply-to: <9507141428.AA07374@r8h.cs.man.ac.uk> (message from David Carlisle on Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:28:32 BST) Reply-to: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Message-id: X-Envelope-to: schoepf@goofy.zdv.uni-mainz.de MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:44:00 -0300 (BST) From: Alan Jeffrey Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: 4 small packages of basic 2e code made available Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1692 >> Do you >> think that a LaTeX source document which has the line >> "\documentclass{article}" should ideally compile to an identical dvi >> file on every LaTeX site? I don't think so, I think a site should >> be free to make changes without having to write, say, "xarticle". Backing David up on this one... As the LaTeX maintainer here, I know that authors swap LaTeX documents between sites, and they get awfully confused and annoyed if documents format differently on different sites. Authors (at least the authors here at COGS) really do rely on LaTeX documents formatting identically on different sites---for example squeezing a paper into exactly 12pp, or tweaking the text to get the right pagebreaks. Ocassionally there are differences in typesetting between different LaTeX sites (e.g. different float placement, or packages which use LaTeX internals which have changed) and then I usually get a vociferous complaint. For LaTeX3 it would be nice to separate logical markup from typesetting rules, but even then I would expect the same document with the same typesetting rules to format identically on every site (within the bounds of possibility offered by TeX and the need to perform bug fixes to LaTeX). Alan.