X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["919" "Thu" "29" "June" "1995" "10:22:47" "+0100" "Sebastian Rahtz" "Sebastian.Rahtz@CL.CAM.AC.UK" nil "19" "Re: (La)TeX is SGML?" "^Date:" nil nil "6" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE (vzdmzf.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.6]) by trudi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA05353 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 11:26:06 +0200 Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON by MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE (PMDF V4.3-12 #4432) id <01HS9YVQML2O9KN5FR@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE>; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 11:26:00 +0100 Received: from mxrelay.gmd.de by MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE (PMDF V4.3-12 #4432) id <01HS9YVN9GYO9AMJ70@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE>; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 11:25:56 +0100 Received: from vm.gmd.de by mxrelay.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id 8ADE5A60 ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 11:25:46 +0200 Received: from VM.GMD.DE (NJE origin LISTSERV@DEARN) by VM.GMD.DE (LMail V1.2b/1.8b) with BSMTP id 6614; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 11:25:22 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV release 1.8b) with NJE id 2394 for LATEX-L@VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 11:22:57 +0000 Received: from DHDURZ1 (NJE origin SMTP@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3478; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 11:20:50 +0000 Received: from swan.cl.cam.ac.uk by vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 29 Jun 95 11:20:44 CET Received: from ouse.cl.cam.ac.uk (user spqr100 (rfc931)) by swan.cl.cam.ac.uk with SMTP (PP-6.5) to cl; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 10:22:50 +0100 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Jun 1995 21:48:11 +0200." <"swan.cl.cam.:021120:950628194916"@cl.cam.ac.uk> Reply-to: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Message-id: <"swan.cl.cam.:046470:950629092253"@cl.cam.ac.uk> X-Envelope-to: schoepf@goofy.zdv.uni-mainz.de MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 10:22:47 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: (La)TeX is SGML? Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1665 > What does trivial mean here? Does it mean that is is of little worth or > importance or is insignificant; perhaps those that made or use those programs > disagree. i mean that its trivial for those experienced in writing such programs, but not trivial for every TeX person. i personally dont think its a great intellectual challenge to write a SGML to LaTeX converter for a particular DTD; it has to be done, its needed, but it doesnt involve great technical or moral issues > So there is a dispute; some think that the program reads SGML, and others do > not. Very interesting. Does it exist? it exists, yes, but Jonatahn is not yet selling it. but he will certainly discuss it with people who are interested in it. contact him direct. yes, it does read real SGML, there is no dispute aboutthat. my dispute is about wheher this is a necessary development. Jonathan can defend it better than me sebastian