X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil t nil] ["2154" "Sat" "12" "March" "1994" "19:44:49" "+0100" "Frank Mittelbach" "MITTELBACH@mzdmza.zdv.uni-mainz.de" nil "56" "Re: amslatex and T1 encoding" "^Date:" nil nil "3" nil nil nil nil] nil) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/24.6.93) id AA09045; Sat, 12 Mar 94 19:46:59 +0100 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA01685; Sat, 12 Mar 94 19:46:54 +0100 Received: from tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA12139 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for <@MAIL.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE:Schoepf@SC.ZIB-BERLIN.DE>); Sat, 12 Mar 1994 19:46:51 +0100 Message-Id: <199403121846.AA12139@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de> Received: from TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE by tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2172; Sat, 12 Mar 94 19:46:16 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin MAILER@DHDURZ1) by TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2171; Sat, 12 Mar 1994 19:46:16 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin LISTSERV@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5108; Sat, 12 Mar 1994 19:45:21 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 19:44:49 +0100 From: Frank Mittelbach Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: amslatex and T1 encoding Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1592 Barbara said in anser to Peter: > peter dalgaard: > What annoys me is that people seem to believe that it is necessary to have > 256-char math fonts before DC fonts can be used for anything except plain > text. This simply isn't true, > > this is correct, strictly speaking. however, in my message i mentioned > two important facts that are relevant to ams interests: > - we have a production environment in which we invite authors of > our publications to submit electronic manuscripts prepared > according to specific conventions, i.e. ams-latex > - we are using high-resolution imagesetters to prepare camera-ready > copy of our publications to send to the printer, and we do *not* > have dc-compatible fonts (yet) for this equipment pardon me, but i think you are mixing here two issues that can and should be separated: a) there is a production environment at the ams for setting math papers in house style. you can't accept any odd format here. b) there are parts of ams-latex which are of general interest to the latex community far beyond the production issue, for example amstex.sty. you certainly can't process or want to process any document using any kind of special feature font or whatever. if i would submit something like \documentclass{ltxdoc} \usepackage{pandora} it would not be surprising you tel me please use amsart or some other house class file and forgett about using local fonts. However, when i send somebody else a paper in, say, German with a lot of math in it i might as well have \documentclass[german]{article} \usepackage{babel,varioref} \usepackage{t1enc} \usepackage{amstex} and expect that to work. In other words, while your house styles can and should enforce whatever fonts and encodings you can or want to handle the all purpose files like amstex.sty should try to be generally useful. I don't think this would produce conflicts and if done with a bit of care it would not be an implicit promise. The house classes could very simply check if the encoding is appropriate at the beginning of the document and print out a bold warning or even an error message if not. frank