X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1143" "Mon" "14" "February" "1994" "17:19:04" "-0500" "bbeeton" "BNB@MATH.AMS.ORG" "<199402142221.AA06140@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de>" "22" "Re: collective documents [was exam papers]" "^Date:" nil nil "2" "1994021422:19:04" "collective documents [was exam papers]" nil "<01H8VRBYW24I9OE9R6@MATH.AMS.ORG>"]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/24.6.93) id AA02515; Mon, 14 Feb 94 23:21:43 +0100 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA05085; Mon, 14 Feb 94 23:21:42 +0100 Received: from tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA06140 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for <@MAIL.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE:Schoepf@SC.ZIB-BERLIN.DE>); Mon, 14 Feb 1994 23:21:40 +0100 Message-Id: <199402142221.AA06140@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de> Received: from TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE by tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8184; Mon, 14 Feb 94 23:21:24 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin MAILER@DHDURZ1) by TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8183; Mon, 14 Feb 1994 23:21:24 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin LISTSERV@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1185; Mon, 14 Feb 1994 23:20:50 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <01H8VRBYW24I9OE9R6@MATH.AMS.ORG> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 17:19:04 -0500 From: bbeeton Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: collective documents [was exam papers] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1558 sebastian doesn't like redefinition of \documentclass, etc., and \end{document} to allow articles to be run both individually and in a stream. well, i don't much either, but ... for tugboat, we expect authors to have actually run their articles through latex, and sometimes after editing, we have to ship an article back to an author (sometimes an author explicitly requests return of the actual file that was published, so that it can be used as the archived documentation). this file should be capable of being processed all by its lonesome. and *exactly* the same file should be able to go into the publication stream. what i really need is a mechanism that will do just that. i am not sure that a tarted up \include is enough. but the mechanism needn't be the same one (a horrible kludge) that's used now. i hope that by the time latex3 comes along, someone will have developed an elegant interface that will do the job with no disruption of either author or production editor. this is definitely a wish for the future, and i'll live with what i have to live with until then. -- bb