X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2243" "Mon" " 7" "February" "1994" "12:36:00" "+0100" "Frank Mittelbach" "MITTELBACH@mzdmza.zdv.uni-mainz.de" "<199402071139.AA06243@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de>" "61" "Installing LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "2" "1994020711:36:00" "Installing LaTeX" nil nil]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/24.6.93) id AA05521; Mon, 7 Feb 94 12:39:20 +0100 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA11331; Mon, 7 Feb 94 12:39:16 +0100 Received: from tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA06243 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for <@MAIL.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE:Schoepf@SC.ZIB-BERLIN.DE>); Mon, 7 Feb 1994 12:39:14 +0100 Message-Id: <199402071139.AA06243@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de> Received: from TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE by tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7118; Mon, 07 Feb 94 12:39:05 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin MAILER@DHDURZ1) by TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7117; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 12:39:06 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin LISTSERV@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8072; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 12:38:27 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 12:36:00 +0100 From: Frank Mittelbach Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Installing LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1444 Installing LaTeX > PROBLEM: Latex installation requires too many decisions. I am nearly in a > position to decide on DC fonts and other issues, but it has taken a lot of > effort. Most of the contributors to this list seem to be familiar with these > questions: most of the potential users are not. we know that nfss2 was too difficult to install. Those who have tried to install latex2e will probably agree that this is not the case with the new system. There is a certain problem that LaTeX is a system that is suposed to ran on all kind of platforms and therefore does need an installation procedure that is quite clever. There is still work going on to make it even better but for most platforms the installation is already trivial (it only takes some time). > So, a wish list. For CTAN maintainers, the Latex3 team and systems package > authors (eg emtex). For each of the following, > > 1) Standard fonts; standard fonts is something we are working on for a long time. to be able to use fonts in T1 encoding successfully we do need standard math fonts, something that is under develoment but still will need some time. > 2) AMS fonts; same answer, amsfonts the way they are now do not contribute to making installations simpler. > 3) Postscript fonts; work on standard ps fonts is under way as well. > Make it {\em really} simple to install each option. This means ONE encoding > scheme as standard. Even a mere mention of different arrangements should be > delimited as `for advanced users only'. Clear intructions as to where the > Postscript sources are (even if included in package). This may do something > about the frightening confusion of bundles in the archives. i agree with you here, and this is one of the goals (i think) we have nearly achieved with the current beta of 2e. > In short, anyone competent with computers but with no specialist knowledge > of TeX should be able to install Latex without fuss. the new installation is more or less the sequences initex unpack2e.ins initex latex2e.ltx done (on some systems initex is activated differently but this is explained in the istall guide) short of finding somebody to install the system for you i think this is the best you can hope for, right? frank