X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["689" "Fri" " 4" "February" "1994" "16:05:55" "+0100" "Tim Van Zandt" "tvz@core.ucl.ac.be" "<199402041543.AA18018@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de>" "20" "Re: On the death of cal" "^Date:" nil nil "2" "1994020415:05:55" "On the death of cal" nil nil]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/24.6.93) id AA02207; Fri, 4 Feb 94 16:43:18 +0100 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA00812; Fri, 4 Feb 94 16:43:02 +0100 Received: from tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA18018 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for <@MAIL.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE:Schoepf@SC.ZIB-BERLIN.DE>); Fri, 4 Feb 1994 16:43:00 +0100 Message-Id: <199402041543.AA18018@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de> Received: from TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE by tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7405; Fri, 04 Feb 94 16:42:54 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin MAILER@DHDURZ1) by TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7404; Fri, 4 Feb 1994 16:42:54 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin LISTSERV@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2534; Fri, 4 Feb 1994 16:42:27 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 16:05:55 +0100 From: Tim Van Zandt Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: On the death of cal Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1438 I said: > > This is old stuff, but I was curious why it was so important > > to remove \cal and thus require changes in a million .tex files? Frank said: > \cal isn't really dead because the standard classes still define it My apologies. I have LaTeX2.09. LaTeX2.09 with NFSS, LaTeX2.09 with NFSS2, and LaTeX2e all running simultaneously. The complaints about \cal were actually generated when running LaTeX2.09 with NFSS2, but I thought I was running LaTeX2e at the time. Tim --- Timothy Van Zandt Department of Economics, Princeton University 1993-1994: Center for Operations Research and Econometrics (CORE) Universite Catholique de Louvain, Belgium