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Date:         Thu, 3 Feb 1994 12:50:22 GMT
From: David Carlisle <carlisle@cs.man.ac.uk>
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Subject:      Re: Another optional argument for \section etc. ?
Status: R

Adrian:
 On Wed, 2 Feb 1994 20:35:34 +0100, "J%org Knappen, Mainz"
  <KNAPPEN%VKPMZD.KPH.UNI-MAINZ.DE@uk.ac.essex.mailhost> said:

 JKM> May I ask for this new feature?
 JKM> Add a second optional argument to the command \chapter, \section, etc. in
 JKM> the following manner:
 JKM>
 JKM> \section[toc entry]{Actual section header, maybe looonnnngggg}[Running
  head]

 If one is allowe to vote new features in, I would also be very pleased
 to see this.  There are quite a few occasions where I have had to
 start fiddling about with running heads just because the section title
 is rather long.  Such a feature would be upwards-compatible (very
 important IMHO) and increase flexibility.

 ...Adrian

The proposed syntax is of course *not* compatible with existing 2.09
documents.

\section{intro}
[I must write this introduction one day]

would behave differently. You see, some of us do care about
compatibility issues:-)

If you look at those commands in 2e which do have new optional
arguments, you will see that they are never the last argument. For
exactly this reason.

\section[toc entry][Running  head]
  {Actual section header, maybe looonnnngggg}

is a perfectly reasonable suggestion, but despite some appearances to
the contrary, LaTeX2e is not supposed to have lots of new features,
apart from the new package interface and NFSS2. For instance, the other
Mainz styles (array, verbatim,...) were *not* included into the
kernel.
Given the names that have so far contributed to this thread, I think
any one of you would not find it too difficult to provide a LaTeX2e
package that provides this functionality. I am sure Sebastian would
like to have some more files to fill up his new contributed/supported
area on ctan:-)

David