X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1107" "Wed" " 2" "February" "1994" "20:39:45" "GMT" "Sebastian Rahtz" "spqr@FTP.TEX.AC.UK" "<199402022047.AA27680@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de>" "23" "Re: On the death of \\footheight" "^Date:" nil nil "2" "1994020220:39:45" "On the death of \\footheight" nil "<9402022006.AA07951@ftp.tex.ac.uk>"]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/24.6.93) id AA27474; Wed, 2 Feb 94 21:47:04 +0100 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA18932; Wed, 2 Feb 94 21:47:03 +0100 Received: from tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA27680 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for <@MAIL.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE:Schoepf@SC.ZIB-BERLIN.DE>); Wed, 2 Feb 1994 21:47:01 +0100 Message-Id: <199402022047.AA27680@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de> Received: from TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE by tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0343; Wed, 02 Feb 94 21:46:56 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin MAILER@DHDURZ1) by TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0342; Wed, 2 Feb 1994 21:46:57 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin LISTSERV@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8719; Wed, 2 Feb 1994 21:46:30 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <9402022006.AA07951@ftp.tex.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 20:39:45 GMT From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: On the death of \footheight Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1405 Paul Taylor writes: > > Whilst LaTeX2e is compatability mode looks more or less compatible, > this sort of thing is going to mean that it will be a LONG TIME > before people (can) switch to native mode. > i think this is much too negative. the footheight thing hits style writers, is easy to spot, and is only relevant in article-like classes. i really dont think joe user will ever know it isnt like like some sort of security blanket. call me a sycophant, but i *like* LaTeX2e. people will upgrade if its good, and if its described by the manual. those people who say `my site wont change until 1996' has better watch out for users waving copies of Lamport saying `but it says here....'. And some of us can help with the conversion - the UKTEX Users GRoup, for instance, will send any member (for the cost of a stamped addressed envelope) a copy of LaTeX2e on disk. and will only sell disk sets from April (or whenever it goes out of beta) with 2e formats on. if all the support groups did this, it would help more than sitting around like vultures saying `ah well it'll never catch on' sebastian