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> I learned about this command in NFSS1, and have used it extensively
> in my research papers for two years now. Does what you've discussed
> about it vanishing from LaTeX2e

We didnt say it had vanished from 2e. we said that if you want to use
the versions of LaTeX2e and amstex.sty *as currently found* on the
archives, then you have to add a definition of \normalshape in your
preamble.

The version of 2e that will be available as soon as this current round
of email ends, and we can get back to testing it, does define
\normalshape in compatibility mode.

From the sources:

% \changes{0.12}{1994/01/24}{Added `normalshape and `mediumseries.}

Look this stuff is testing. bb politely pointed out that the status of
NFSS2 was slightly obscure, but the status of 2e is clear, it
is in <some greek letter> testing. It may happen that some commands
get missed out, or compatibility mode is not as compatible as it could
be. That's why we are asking you to test it. If you are hit by
something like that, send a test file to the latex-bug address. It
If we can fix compatibility so that your file works, your file will go
into `the system' so that we can automatically check that it works
with future releases as well.

Sorry, but it's been a long day, and the discussion here has not helped.

David.