X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["547" "Wed" " 2" "February" "1994" "12:12:09" "GMT" "David Carlisle" "carlisle@cs.man.ac.uk" "<199402021214.AA15550@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de>" "16" "Re: Language numbers" "^Date:" nil nil "2" "1994020212:12:09" "Language numbers" nil "<9402021203.AA18593@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>"]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/24.6.93) id AA25771; Wed, 2 Feb 94 13:16:19 +0100 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA15451; Wed, 2 Feb 94 13:14:45 +0100 Received: from tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA15550 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for <@MAIL.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE:Schoepf@SC.ZIB-BERLIN.DE>); Wed, 2 Feb 1994 13:14:41 +0100 Message-Id: <199402021214.AA15550@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de> Received: from TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE by tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6764; Wed, 02 Feb 94 13:14:37 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin MAILER@DHDURZ1) by TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6763; Wed, 2 Feb 1994 13:14:36 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin LISTSERV@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4895; Wed, 2 Feb 1994 13:14:11 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <9402021203.AA18593@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> (message from Philip TAYLOR on Wed, 2 Feb 1994 11:49:54 GMT) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 12:12:09 GMT From: David Carlisle Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Language numbers Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1391 Phil> It is rare (unknown?) for me to take issue with David Carlisle, Phil> but when he writes: ... Phil> but Knuth himself had the forsight to provide the \newlanguage macro... My message could perhaps be described as `misleading' if not exactly wrong:-) Yes, of course Knuth provided \newlanguage. Babel is higher level, and hides even more of the details (including \newlanguage :-) I am a little rusty on all this stuff, as I my knowledge of other languages is regrettably poor, so I have never made any use of these TeX3 features. David