X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2368" "Fri" "28" "January" "1994" "15:59:10" "LCL" "Mike Piff" "M.Piff@sheffield.ac.uk" "<199401281610.AA16064@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de>" "61" "Re: form and content" "^Date:" nil nil "1" "1994012815:59:10" "form and content" (number " " mark " Mike Piff Jan 28 61/2368 " thread-indent "\"Re: form and content\"\n") nil]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/24.6.93) id AA15642; Fri, 28 Jan 94 17:11:05 +0100 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA11492; Fri, 28 Jan 94 17:10:04 +0100 Received: from tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA16064 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for <@MAIL.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE:Schoepf@SC.ZIB-BERLIN.DE>); Fri, 28 Jan 1994 17:10:01 +0100 Message-Id: <199401281610.AA16064@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de> Received: from TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE by tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3715; Fri, 28 Jan 94 17:10:01 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin MAILER@DHDURZ1) by TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3713; Fri, 28 Jan 1994 17:10:01 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin LISTSERV@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5870; Fri, 28 Jan 1994 17:09:35 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 15:59:10 LCL From: Mike Piff Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: form and content Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1347 %>From: bbeeton %> %>in this discussion of whether any of the built-in latex content-tagging %>commands should or should not be used, in favor of only tags defined %>in the preamble of a given paper, i submit that this ignores the %>attempts of some of us to present a solid, logical user interface %>that essentially omits the ad hoc use of {\bf ...} et al. while i %>think it's a good idea to suggest that a user create new definitions %>for, e.g. \Emphasis{\em ...}, \Booktitle{\it ...}, and the like (if %>they're not already available), depending on what actually appears %>in the document, i think that many really common entities should be %>able to be provided and the strong suggestion that the given tagging %>scheme be used. %> %>that's not to say that %> \begin{section}[sectiontitle]["short" section title] %> ... %> \end{section} %>or something of that sort doesn't make more sense -- it does. %>but please don't throw away the possibility of using a predefined %>scheme in a real production environment. to suggest that each %>user should "roll his own" would make that very difficult and %>costly. %> -- bb %> Right, I agree that in some circumstances, eg, AMS submissions, the style should most definitely be normative; the user *must* use the given macros. Indeed, I believe that some journals go as far as to forbid the definition of macros in papers. But I was thinking of the context in which the format is not rigidly fixed, and indeed is fluid. Suppose I am undecided about whether to send a paper to journal X or Y, where X and Y have different macros. Surely it makes sense to write in terms of my own macros, and then map those either to X or to Y in the preamble, rather than have to do a lengthy edit to convert between formats. Even worse, journal X might have a format \def\Thm#1.#2\par{...} while Y has the format \begin{th}....\end{th} X produces {\sc Theorem #1.}{\em #2} and Y produces {\bf Theorem nn} text where nn is an automatic numbering. Mike Piff %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% Dr M J Piff, School of Mathematics and Statistics, University of %% %% Sheffield, UK. e-mail: M.Piff@sheffield.ac.uk %% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%