X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["759" "Thu" "27" "January" "1994" "15:22:48" "+0000" "Robin Fairbairns" "Robin.Fairbairns@cl.cam.ac.uk" "<199401271525.AA09147@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de>" "17" "Re: article.\"style\"" "^Date:" nil nil "1" "1994012715:22:48" "article.\"style\"" (number " " mark " Robin Fairbairns Jan 27 17/759 " thread-indent "\"Re: article.\"style\"\"\n") "<\"swan.cl.cam.:057460:940127134148\"@cl.cam.ac.uk>"]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/24.6.93) id AA12138; Thu, 27 Jan 94 16:26:06 +0100 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA05279; Thu, 27 Jan 94 16:25:11 +0100 Received: from tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA09147 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for <@MAIL.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE:Schoepf@SC.ZIB-BERLIN.DE>); Thu, 27 Jan 1994 16:25:09 +0100 Message-Id: <199401271525.AA09147@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de> Received: from TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE by tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3044; Thu, 27 Jan 94 16:25:08 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin MAILER@DHDURZ1) by TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3043; Thu, 27 Jan 1994 16:25:09 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin LISTSERV@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7983; Thu, 27 Jan 1994 16:24:45 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: Paul Taylor's message of "Thu, 27 Jan 94 13:38:22 GMT." <"swan.cl.cam.:057460:940127134148"@cl.cam.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 15:22:48 +0000 From: Robin Fairbairns Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: article."style" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1324 Paul Taylor writes: |> PS From the point of view of the "design" implicit in the standard |> styles, the principle that they should look as horrible as possible seems |> not so unreasonable. Then people will be forced to think about design. On the contrary: people tend _not_ to think about design whatever the circumstances (witness the regular stream of ghastly stuff that comes out of word-processors, where people think themselves forced to design on the fly). If the standard LaTeX styles are ghastly, then the vast majority of LaTeX- mediated typesetting will be ghastly, as a result of this lack of thought. Robin -- Robin (Campaign for Real Radio 3) Fairbairns rf@cl.cam.ac.uk U of Cambridge Computer Lab, Pembroke St, Cambridge CB2 3QG, UK