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 >
 > and he is absolutely right. What is suggested by the VT15WG is that THE
 > default language be something like a "null" language ie without any
 > usual \patterns. That way documents could be processed identically

oh, ok. thats fair. in that case lets get LaTeX2e working like this
now. if you say \documentclass, let it be language0 with no patterns
(209.cmp can load US language). i dont mind suffering so long as
everyone else suffers too.

sebastian the social leveller

PS whats David Carlisle doing on this list? hes far too rational and
reasonable to last long in TeX..