X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["524" "Wed" "26" "January" "1994" "13:24:54" "GMT" "Sebastian Rahtz" "spqr@FTP.TEX.AC.UK" "<199401261331.AA04031@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de>" "12" "defaults in latex" "^Date:" nil nil "1" "1994012613:24:54" "defaults in latex" (number " " mark " Sebastian Rahtz Jan 26 12/524 " thread-indent "\"defaults in latex\"\n") nil]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/24.6.93) id AA09128; Wed, 26 Jan 94 14:31:52 +0100 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA26031; Wed, 26 Jan 94 14:31:49 +0100 Received: from tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA04031 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for <@MAIL.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE:Schoepf@SC.ZIB-BERLIN.DE>); Wed, 26 Jan 1994 14:31:46 +0100 Message-Id: <199401261331.AA04031@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de> Received: from TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE by tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1833; Wed, 26 Jan 94 14:31:30 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin MAILER@DHDURZ1) by TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1832; Wed, 26 Jan 1994 14:31:30 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin LISTSERV@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8761; Wed, 26 Jan 1994 14:31:03 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 13:24:54 GMT From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: defaults in latex Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1296 if we *are* to have defaults which make every latex installatioin process a document in the same way, can we at least dump *some* of the american bias? like GET RID AMERICAN PAPER SIZE! if i have to specofy uk hyphenation in every document, i think my colleagues in the US should suffer too by saying \documentclass[lettersize]{...} in every job. after all, it must be widley recognized that one reason why LaTeX is badly regarded is the appearance of a plain `article' document on A4 paper..... sebastian the eurocentric