X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil t nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1460" "Wed" "26" "January" "1994" "10:37:58" "LCL" "Mike Piff" "M.Piff@sheffield.ac.uk" "<199401261155.AA01205@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de>" "31" "Re: Changing default preloads" "^Date:" nil nil "1" "1994012610:37:58" "Changing default preloads" (number " " mark "U Mike Piff Jan 26 31/1460 " thread-indent "\"Re: Changing default preloads\"\n") nil]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/24.6.93) id AA08778; Wed, 26 Jan 94 12:56:50 +0100 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA25425; Wed, 26 Jan 94 12:55:47 +0100 Received: from tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA01205 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for <@MAIL.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE:Schoepf@SC.ZIB-BERLIN.DE>); Wed, 26 Jan 1994 12:55:44 +0100 Message-Id: <199401261155.AA01205@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de> Received: from TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE by tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0930; Wed, 26 Jan 94 12:55:46 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin MAILER@DHDURZ1) by TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0929; Wed, 26 Jan 1994 12:55:46 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin LISTSERV@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8002; Wed, 26 Jan 1994 12:55:25 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 10:37:58 LCL From: Mike Piff Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Changing default preloads Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1290 %>From: Sebastian Rahtz %> %>Frank Mittelbach writes: %> %> > Ther is *NO* right place to change the default encoding. %> > %> > To keep documents portable it is essential to start off with the same %> > encoding on every installation. %> %>frank is right, i suppose. but it does go against teh grain to have to %>prefix every file with the same command. the same applies to %>hyphenation - i suppose you want me to type \language{EN} or whatever %>at the start of every single thing i write? we are stuck with american %>hyphenation by default for ever and ever? sigh. i imagine we are %> %>sebastian %> I agree with Sebastian. The documentation says that you can create your own configuration file to change the hyphenation patterns, which I have done to provide GB English hyphenation for GB English users. However, are we now to be told that this makes our files unportable, because the end user cannot see which hyphenation patterns were intended? Loading both American and English seems extreme, especially for standard implementations of TeX. Also, loading the patterns at LaTeX time rather than iniTeX time just slows things down. Mike %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% Dr M J Piff, School of Mathematics and Statistics, University of %% %% Sheffield, UK. e-mail: M.Piff@sheffield.ac.uk %% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%