X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1274" "Fri" "7" "January" "1994" "17:29:53" "GMT" "David Carlisle" "carlisle@cs.man.ac.uk" "<199401071732.AA02130@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de>" "33" "Re: The extent of compatibility" "^From:" nil nil "1" "1994010717:29:53" "The extent of compatibility" (number " " mark " David Carlisle Jan 7 33/1274 " thread-indent "\"Re: The extent of compatibility\"\n") "<9401071724.AA27283@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>"]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/24.6.93) id AA07976; Fri, 7 Jan 94 18:33:30 +0100 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA18902; Fri, 7 Jan 94 18:32:50 +0100 Received: from tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA02130 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for <@MAIL.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE:Schoepf@SC.ZIB-BERLIN.DE>); Fri, 7 Jan 1994 18:32:47 +0100 Message-Id: <199401071732.AA02130@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de> Received: from TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE by tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2526; Fri, 07 Jan 94 18:33:03 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin MAILER@DHDURZ1) by TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2525; Fri, 7 Jan 1994 18:33:03 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin LISTSERV@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2970; Fri, 7 Jan 1994 18:32:07 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <9401071724.AA27283@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> (message from Sebastian Rahtz on Fri, 7 Jan 1994 16:44:09 GMT) From: David Carlisle Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: The extent of compatibility Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 17:29:53 GMT Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1261 >>>>> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Rahtz writes: Sebastian> Robin Fairbairns writes: >> Whilst using seminar provokes various errors, formatting the >> manual appears to work fine. However it produces different output >> from 2.09. This definitely is font-related - everything comes out >> smaller in 2e. Sebastian> .... >> It seems to me that compatibility does not extend to style files >> very Sebastian> i think seminar is an exception, because it uses NFSS1 for Sebastian> its font stuff. i am using it with no problem, but using Sebastian> LaTe2e/NFSS2 font packages. i havent noticed this smallness Sebastian> Martyn reports. Sebastian> i really dont blame LaTeX2e for not being compatible with Sebastian> NFSS1. What I blame it for it removing \footheight, so that Sebastian> every style I use has to be edited to remove that offending Sebastian> item! Sebastian> sebastian \footheight is there in compatibility mode, however \footheight is a relic of some pre-latex. 209 defines it (taking up 1/256 of the possible dimen registers) and many styles set it, but no part of the output routine ever looks at the value so it was just wasted space in 209. dimen registers are too valuable to waste, we've only got a fixed number of them. David