X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["606" "Mon" "27" "December" "1993" "22:37:02" "-0800" "Arthur Ogawa" "ogawa@ORION.ARC.NASA.GOV" nil "13" "Re: Preceding-page figure placement" "^Date:" nil nil "12" nil nil]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/24.6.93) id AA22088; Tue, 28 Dec 93 11:30:08 +0100 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA26037; Tue, 28 Dec 93 11:29:36 +0100 Received: from tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA25742 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for <@MAIL.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE:Schoepf@SC.ZIB-BERLIN.DE>); Tue, 28 Dec 1993 11:29:34 +0100 Message-Id: <199312281029.AA25742@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de> Received: from TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE by tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5430; Tue, 28 Dec 93 11:29:57 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin MAILER@DHDURZ1) by TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5429; Tue, 28 Dec 1993 11:29:57 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin LISTSERV@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8694; Tue, 28 Dec 1993 11:29:10 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <9312152005.AA24327@orion.arc.nasa.gov> from "Michael Downes" at Dec 15, 93 09:02:28 pm Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 22:37:02 -0800 From: Arthur Ogawa Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Preceding-page figure placement Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1237 Michael, when a document has a great number of figures locally, then placement does become a problem; I often find it a necessary compromise of the page makeup rules to move a figure before its reference, even to placing it on the preceding spread, in order to allow me to put the bulk of the figures in close proximity to their respective callouts. I have had some headaches with page makeup in my time, but I have been able to alter LaTeX to make it work more satisfactorily. Unfortunately, LaTeX out-of-the-box is a real pain when it comes to float placement. I sympathize with the hapless users. Art