X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil t nil] ["2084" "Wed" "15" "December" "93" "21:02:12" "CET" "Gabriel Valiente Feruglio" "valiente@IPC4.UIB.ES" nil "40" "RE: ideas for floats (forwarded)" "^Date:" nil nil "12" nil nil]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/24.6.93) id AA05726; Thu, 16 Dec 93 12:39:18 +0100 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA10502; Thu, 16 Dec 93 12:39:17 +0100 Received: from tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA04102 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for <@MAIL.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE:Schoepf@SC.ZIB-BERLIN.DE>); Thu, 16 Dec 1993 10:57:15 +0100 Message-Id: <199312160957.AA04102@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de> Received: from TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE by tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5788; Thu, 16 Dec 93 10:57:48 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin MAILER@DHDURZ1) by TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5787; Thu, 16 Dec 1993 10:57:48 +0200 Received: from DHDURZ1 (NJE origin LISTSERV@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4691; Wed, 15 Dec 1993 21:02:25 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 21:02:12 CET From: Gabriel Valiente Feruglio Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple Recipients of Subject: RE: ideas for floats (forwarded) Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1210 Dear Philip Taylor, ever since I had some trouble with composing large trees with TreeTeX I want to comment with you on the following, both in the context of TeX and of the NTS. The subject is (lack of) modularity in TeX. Suppose you have already composed a complex stuff. Now wouldn't it be desirable to be able to save the CONTENTS of a box holding that stuff, that is, the box fully expanded, to a file in order to just include it afterwards, instead of having to compose it over and over again, here and there, in any document using it? I was trying to do something like that but it seems that TeX doesn't support such an export of the contents of a box other than to the DVI file, which is in principle a little difficult to parse by TeX because of being a binary file. Am I wrong in saying that? The precise motivation was the TreeTeX macros needing much resources in order to typeset a large (over 50 nodes) tree, and the only way around it was to use the smallest format (plain). But then I need to somehow include the composed trees in an AMS-LaTeX document, which is too large a format file to typeset such large trees. I even need to include the trees as objects in commutative diagrams, and there are text labels for nodes and arcs, so that drawing the trees with any (interactive) drawing program doesn't seem to be a good solution. Do you see any way of doing that with TeX? Does all this raise any interesting question for the NTS project? Thank you very much. Yours, Gabriel ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gabriel Valiente Feruglio Telefon +3471 172967 Mathematics and Computer Science Department Telefax +3471 173003 University of the Balearic Islands E-07071 Palma (Balears) Spain Internet: valiente@ipc4.uib.es ------------------------------------------------------------------------- You may write and talk in Catalan, Spanish, German, and even in exotic languages such as English -------------------------------------------------------------------------