X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["913" "Tue" "14" "December" "93" "09:34:32" "-0700" "Michal Jaegermann" "michal@GORTEL.PHYS.UALBERTA.CA" nil "22" "Re: ideas for floats" "^Date:" nil nil "12"]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/24.6.93) id AA01096; Tue, 14 Dec 93 17:46:53 +0100 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA02631; Tue, 14 Dec 93 17:46:21 +0100 Received: from tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA26467 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for <@MAIL.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE:Schoepf@SC.ZIB-BERLIN.DE>); Tue, 14 Dec 1993 17:46:19 +0100 Message-Id: <199312141646.AA26467@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de> Received: from TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE by tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7567; Tue, 14 Dec 93 17:45:10 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin MAILER@DHDURZ1) by TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7566; Tue, 14 Dec 1993 17:45:10 +0200 Received: from DHDURZ1 (NJE origin LISTSERV@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6343; Tue, 14 Dec 1993 17:42:16 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Tue, 14 Dec 93 09:34:32 -0700 From: Michal Jaegermann Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple Recipients of Subject: Re: ideas for floats Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1206 I am very far from claiming that LaTeX float decisions are perfect, or that they will not give an occasional trouble. Although, in most cases I have seen changes in parameters like \floatpagefraction and \topfraction resolved problems pretty quickly and painlessly; (for some reasons page 178 in LaTeX Book seems to be read exceedingly rare). Still, there is a solution which seems to be even less popular. If you do not want your pictures to float, then DO NOT make them into floats! This obviously means that some manual intervention will likely be required, but in practice this may happen less often then one may expect. If an automatic tool is clearly inappriopriate (a quoted example with over 100 hours spent fighting with floats) then it is time to get your hands dirty. Hammering nails with a power saw maybe will get job done after a while, but it is a clear waste of resources. Michal