X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["576" "Mon" "13" "December" "93" "15:46:41" "GMT" "P.Taylor@rhbnc.ac.uk" "P.Taylor@rhbnc.ac.uk" nil "11" "RE: ideas for floats (forwarded)" "^Date:" nil nil "12"]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/24.6.93) id AA24590; Mon, 13 Dec 93 16:53:45 +0100 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA08884; Mon, 13 Dec 93 16:51:54 +0100 Received: from tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA27234 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for <@MAIL.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE:Schoepf@SC.ZIB-BERLIN.DE>); Mon, 13 Dec 1993 16:51:43 +0100 Message-Id: <199312131551.AA27234@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de> Received: from TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE by tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7048; Mon, 13 Dec 93 16:52:16 +0200 Received: from VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (NJE origin MAILER@DHDURZ1) by TUBVM.CS.TU-BERLIN.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7047; Mon, 13 Dec 1993 16:52:16 +0200 Received: from DHDURZ1 (NJE origin LISTSERV@DHDURZ1) by VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9440; Mon, 13 Dec 1993 16:49:18 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 15:46:41 GMT From: P.Taylor@rhbnc.ac.uk Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple Recipients of Subject: RE: ideas for floats (forwarded) Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1200 Whilst I may not agree with everything that Grant Gustafson has suggested in re floats and LaTeX, I do feel that his heart is in the right place; however, he has, I believe, omitted a most important desideratum: that of placing a float so that it is visible from its point of reference, \stress {even if that means placing the figure on the page _preceding_ the point of reference}. Which is a verbose way of saying that LaTeX should take the spread as its basic element of layout rather than the page, at least for `book'-like document classes. Philip Taylor, RHBNC.