X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["759" "Tue" "16" "November" "93" "13:49:43" "GMT" "spqr@FTP.TEX.AC.UK" "spqr@FTP.TEX.AC.UK" nil "19" "Re: times.sty" "^Date:" nil nil "11"]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/24.6.93) id AA20314; Tue, 16 Nov 93 14:55:24 +0100 Received: from vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (vm.hd-net.uni-heidelberg.de) by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA03455; Tue, 16 Nov 93 14:55:19 +0100 Message-Id: <9311161355.AA03455@sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE> Received: from DHDURZ1 by vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6919; Tue, 16 Nov 93 14:53:48 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 0338; Tue, 16 Nov 93 14:52:38 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 0336; Tue, 16 Nov 93 14:52:36 CET Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <9311151423.AA21869@ftp.tex.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 93 13:49:43 GMT From: spqr@FTP.TEX.AC.UK Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple Recipients of Subject: Re: times.sty Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1170 i agree with Angus' rant about times.sty. the important thing about NFSS2/LaTex2e is that its easy to change family, and its easy to define POstScript fonts in .fd files. the style files should be regarded as contributed suggestions, models for how to write such animals. I don't understand how Dean finds them tricky, since they only have 1-4 lines! (unless you get into maths). i regret Frank's decision to drop the nf (though i shall respect it); what will happen now is that the user will type ...[times]... and the system will find the times.sty from the dvips distribution, and another 1000 people will whinge on c.t.t. and waste all our time. with nftimes we knew where we were. ah well. we'll all live. lets drop this wrtched subject sebastian