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In-Reply-To:  spqr@FTP.TEX.AC.UK's message of Mon,
              15 Nov 93 12:29:45 GMT
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Date:         Mon, 15 Nov 93 13:53:46 GMT
From: Angus Duggan <angus@HARLEQUIN.CO.UK>
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Subject:      times.sty
Status: R


>From: spqr@FTP.TEX.AC.UK
>
>There is an underlying, false, assumption in all this furore over
>times.sty vs nftimes.sty vs times3.sty; this is that we know to put in
>a `times.sty'. the current nftimes.sty, for instance, changes the
>romans, sans and tt families. it might changes just the roman; or just
>the roman and tt; or it might load Times as the maths text font, like
>the ill-fated timesmat.sty.

This is something that I've disliked about many of the distributed times.sty
type options. times.sty should set up the *Times* family, not Helvetica &
Courier. If I want helvetica, I'll put helvetica in my style options. If I
want to put a different \tt or \sf font in the order of the style options
affects the result, which is bad, because they are logically orthogonal. If I
want to keep cmtt and cmss, I also have to stick commands in the preamble or
another style file to revert to them.  Font styles should define the font
family that they are named for (and maybe set the defaults for sf/tt/rm and
bf) , and no more. If I want a style with Times, Courier and Helvetica, I can
create a style file, say "yeuch.sty", and put \input commands in it.

Sorry about the rant, but this one annoys me out of all proportion to its
severity.

a.
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