X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1769" "Wed" "3" "November" "93" "14:57:17" "CET" "Joachim Schrod" "schrod@ITI.INFORMATIK.TH-DARMSTADT.DE" nil "46" "Re: your mail" "^Date:" nil nil "11"]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/24.6.93) id AA17006; Wed, 3 Nov 93 14:58:47 +0100 Received: from vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (vm.hd-net.uni-heidelberg.de) by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA23850; Wed, 3 Nov 93 14:58:44 +0100 Message-Id: <9311031358.AA23850@sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE> Received: from DHDURZ1 by vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1528; Wed, 03 Nov 93 14:57:34 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 6196; Wed, 03 Nov 93 14:57:31 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 6194; Wed, 03 Nov 93 14:57:29 CET Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <9311031256.AA13465@hp5.iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de> from"zach@IGD.FHG.D400.DE" at Nov 3, 93 01:51:49 pm Date: Wed, 3 Nov 93 14:57:17 CET From: Joachim Schrod Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple Recipients of Subject: Re: your mail Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1072 Gabriel Zachmann wrote as an reply to Michal: > > "The last, but not the least point. Quite a few OS-es is limited to > "eight characters in a base part of file names... > yes, it IS the least point ! as you state quite perfectly below: > "You need an old Fortran mind to do that" ! > this stupid eight characters limit is not LaTeX's problem, but is the > problem of those who wrote the stupid OS (or the problem of those > who use it :-º ). But sometimes one is not in the position to choose a system. Your boss chooses it for you. Not everybody is working at a research environment like the FHG. > In general, if LaTeX-users are too anxious about updating their documents, > it's their problem. People working under the motto > "if ain't broke, don't fix it" , as you put it, > these people don't deserve better software. We have hundreds of long-living documents that use constructs like $({\it colon}, {\it space})$ all over the place. If they won't work with a new system, I won't switch. And I will recommend the same action to _everybody_ in a similar situation. I don't want, that a system determines my work. I.e., improving the contents of our scripts is more important than adapting to a new system. Btw, you can't change this with a ``simple awk'' script like you put it. I don't have a problem, if the constructs above won't work with documents starting with \documentclass. But if they start with \documentstyle, they *must* be compatible. The installation-effort--to--use-enhancement ratio is too low otherwise. -- Joachim =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Joachim Schrod Email: schrod@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de Computer Science Department Technical University of Darmstadt, Germany