X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil t t nil nil nil] ["3151" "Fri" "11" "June" "93" "17:12:17" "+0200" "Bernard GAULLE" "gaulle@CIRCE.FR" "<9306111524.AA18598@sc.zib-berlin.dbp.de>" "81" "(ltx3) requirements for Ml docs" "^Date:" nil nil "6"]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/1.9.92 ) id AA00246; Fri, 11 Jun 93 17:24:19 +0200 Received: from vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (vm.hd-net.uni-heidelberg.de) by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/03.06.93) id AA18598; Fri, 11 Jun 93 17:24:15 +0200 Message-Id: <9306111524.AA18598@sc.zib-berlin.dbp.de> Received: from DHDURZ1 by vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2885; Fri, 11 Jun 93 17:22:46 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 5536; Fri, 11 Jun 93 17:22:37 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 5534; Fri, 11 Jun 93 17:22:34 CET Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 17:12:17 +0200 From: Bernard GAULLE Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple Recipients of Subject: (ltx3) requirements for Ml docs Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1044 Coordinating the ltx3 5.4 research task on "typographical conventions and requirements in multilingual environments", I would like to find other volunteers to help me in this heavy task. I know that there is a TUG working group which is also working on a reduced part of the problem and it would be fine that any interface was established for a better distribution of informations. In order to achieve the task i'm going to divide it in several parts, as small as possible, to retain attention of potential experimented people, or professionals, or simply "amateurs" with some knowledge. Please, let me know which part and section you would like to discuss specially and even if you are candidate to coordinate one point or another. Here are the major topics I want to adress *now*: Part I, DEFINITIONS =================== o What is a language? How a language has to be known inside a latex style file for example? (name or number + set of patterns + exceptions + hyphenation values & rules + typographic convetions + LR or RL writing + fonts + character set +... o What is a dialect? How a dialect differ from his original language? o Which is the minimum text part on which the language def apply? o Are they limits for language application? Is any pop-push mechanism required? Part II, LANGUAGE HANDLING ========================== Section 1: Hyphenation loading mechanism Section 2: Hyphenation exceptions handling Section 3: Related file names standard Section 4: Switching mechanism Part III, TYPOGRAPHY HANDLING MECHANISMS ======================================== What are the required mechanisms to apply typographic features for various (numerous) languages? For example we don't know when it is required to apply the french guillemets BUT we must know that there are cases where specific characters (here the french guillemets) need to be inserted in front of each line and at \everypar. Section 1: Line level Section 2: Paragraph level Section 3: Page level Section 4: Column level Section 5: Table row and column levels Section 6: Two-sides sheet level Section 7: Math levels (text and display) Section 8: Sectioning level as well as start/end of documents Section 9: \shipout level Part IV, OTHER LANGUAGE REQS ============================ This part will address features not processed in previous parts and not allready solved in the current LaTeX version or via appropriate style files. So it isn't exhaustive. Are they specific mechanism required to process the following: Section 1: Bibliography Section 2: Index Section 3: Glossary Section 4: Typographic abbreviations Section 5: Country Fonts Section 6: Table of..., abstracts, summaries, keywords,... Section 7: ?? I think we would take advantage in having private and parallel discussions and in trying to produce a short text on each section. Consensual writing will be search but if divergent opinions occur then the whole list would be asked for debate. As Parts II to IV need to work on the good definitions, text publication on these parts have to be postponed until Part I were complete. Thanks for your effort to cooperate, --bg