X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1668" "Thu" "25" "February" "93" "22:37:47" "CET" "Michael Downes" "MJD@MATH.AMS.ORG" nil "30" "Re: subdocuments" "^Date:" nil nil "2"]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (mailserv) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/1.9.92 ) id AA25453; Thu, 25 Feb 93 22:37:42 +0100 Received: from vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (vm.hd-net.uni-heidelberg.de) by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0-sc/19.6.92) id AA12376; Thu, 25 Feb 93 22:37:38 +0100 Message-Id: <9302252137.AA12376@sc.zib-berlin.dbp.de> Received: from DHDURZ1 by vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2019; Thu, 25 Feb 93 22:38:00 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 9911; Thu, 25 Feb 93 22:37:59 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 9909; Thu, 25 Feb 93 22:37:57 CET Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <01GV4U8T0ZQAGW2B4P@MATH.AMS.ORG> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 93 22:37:47 CET From: Michael Downes Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple Recipients of Subject: Re: subdocuments Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 984 Joachim posted Eve Maler's comments in comp.text.sgml about `reusing division subtrees' (thank you Joachim): > Lots of folks express the desire to reuse division "subtrees," and this > seems to be the main reason that generic nested divisions get chosen. > As Wayne points out, writers must be aware of the possibility of reuse; > otherwise they will erect literary obstacles against the reuse (e.g., > "This chapter discusses..." introductions can't be reused at lower levels). > > I'm confused as to why there's such a strong desire for this, given the > constraints it puts on writers to write naturally (at least in regular > old book-like documents), given the alternatives, and given that such a > DTD for regular books allows for documents that nest to unacceptable numbers > of levels. This reminded me, I neglected to include one other example where it would be nice to be able to shift sectioning levels up or down: In the process of writing an article, I would sometimes like to promote a subsection to become a section, or vice versa. In current LaTeX this can be awkward: I must change \subsection -> \section, \subsubsection -> \subsection, \paragraph -> \subsubsection, ... and maybe also if I was not foresightful enough, I have to change \label{ssec:xxx} to \label{sec:xxx}, not to mention \ref's. I suppose here many of the difficulties must be forestalled by the careful attention from the writer mentioned by Eve and Joachim, but perhaps a few things can be done by LaTeX to make it easier to promote or demote document subdivisions while the writing is still unfinished. Michael Downes mjd@math.ams.org (Internet)