X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2527" "Wed" "25" "November" "92" "12:46:49" "+0100" "David_Rhead@VME.CCC.NOTTINGHAM.AC.UK" "David_Rhead@VME.CCC.NOTTINGHAM.AC.UK" nil "45" "LaTeX 3 floating strategy: plates" "^Date:" nil nil "11"]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (serv01) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/1.9.92 ) id AA25320; Wed, 25 Nov 92 12:51:06 +0100 Received: from vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (vm.hd-net.uni-heidelberg.de) by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.0/SMI-4.0-sc/19.6.92) id AA00785; Wed, 25 Nov 92 12:51:02 +0100 Message-Id: <9211251151.AA00785@sc.zib-berlin.dbp.de> Received: from DHDURZ1 by vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2997; Wed, 25 Nov 92 12:50:36 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 6746; Wed, 25 Nov 92 12:50:33 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 6744; Wed, 25 Nov 92 12:50:30 CET Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Wed, 25 Nov 92 12:46:49 +0100 From: David_Rhead@VME.CCC.NOTTINGHAM.AC.UK Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple Recipients of Subject: LaTeX 3 floating strategy: plates Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 872 Although the LaTeX 2.09 mechanism for floats can be extended to support things other than figures and tables, I think that plates which have to be on a different type of paper (e.g., photographs or plots on special paper) may need treating slightly differently: 1. Hugh Williamson describes a number of options for binding plates in. ("Methods of Book Design", 3rd edition, section 16.3). It looks as though the rules for plate-floating are different from those for figure- and table-floating. For example, if you have typeset pages 1-64 and pages 65-128, my reading of Williamson is that the following may be good places for plates: - between pages 32 and 33 (for a single plate) - between pages 64 and 65 (for a group of plates). 2. With figures and tables, it may be desirable to let the end-user express a preference that "this table/figure should, if possible, be on the same 2-page spread as that table/figure". However, with plates, the "same type of paper" constraint, would lead to different rules, e.g., "this plate needs another plate on its verso (but if we can't find another plate soon, the verso might be better left blank)" I.e., with figures and tables we need to think about 2-page spreads, but with plates we need to think about 2 pages back-to-back. [In unsophisticated production systems, as for theses, it may be inevitable that a plate has a blank reverse. The only freedom would be to choose whether the picture appears verso or recto.] 3. The caption for a plate may appear on the adjacent typeset page, e.g., "Plate N (opposite) shows ... ". 4. Plates may be omitted from the page-numbering sequence for the typeset pages. E.g., you might have "page 32, plate, page 33". The "List of Plates" might then have to say "Plate N ... opposite page 32. Plate N+1 opposite page 33." 5. The user might like a choice between: (a) a pair of pages in the dvi file, as place-holders, to "represent" the recto/verso of a plate. In the final document, the place-holders would be replaced by the real plate. (b) no place-holders (to save paper and laserprinting charges). Fortunately, now that images can often be dealt with as PostScript and treated as figures, plates may now be used less often than they used to be. Nevertheless, they are still used to some extent, and it may be worth bearing their idiosyncracies in mind when thinking about the floating strategy for LaTeX 3. David Rhead JANET: d.rhead@uk.ac.nott.vme