X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["997" "Wed" "11" "November" "92" "13:48:13" "EST" "Michael Barr" "barr@TRIPLES.MATH.MCGILL.CA" nil "25" "Re: \\lim, \\max, etc" "^Date:" nil nil "11"]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (serv01) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/1.9.92 ) id AA07080; Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:56:21 +0100 Received: from vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (vm.hd-net.uni-heidelberg.de) by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.0/SMI-4.0-sc/19.6.92) id AA18694; Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:56:17 +0100 Message-Id: <9211111856.AA18694@sc.zib-berlin.dbp.de> Received: from DHDURZ1 by vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2934; Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:56:08 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 4269; Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:56:05 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 4267; Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:56:03 CET Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 13:48:13 EST From: Michael Barr Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple Recipients of Subject: Re: \lim, \max, etc Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 866 > I was surprised to find recently that \max, \min, \lim, \limsup, etc > are set in plain TeX and LaTeX without limits in text maths mode. > Not having been on an analysis course for some years, I was unaware of > this fact until now. > > Are there ANY mathematicians who would place {n\to\infty} as a > SUBSCRIPT on \lim? I would be very surprised. Similarly for \max. > > > Mike Piff The answer is yes. I checked three calculus books and two did it as a subscript and the third put it under even when not displayed. The latter looks awful since it makes the line separation very large. Of the two books who did it with subscripts, one I happen to know was set in TeX and the second was printed in 1969! I think Knuth followed observable practice in this regard. Obviously, a sample of three is not significant, but it does suggest that there is a reasonable presumption that Knuth got it right. All three books tended to mostly display lim anyway. That avoids the problem. Michael Barr