X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2859" "Sun" "4" "October" "92" "20:27:36" "CET" "bbeeton" "BNB@MATH.AMS.ORG" nil "49" "re: dsssl" "^Date:" nil nil "10"]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (serv01) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/1.9.92 ) id AA08790; Sun, 4 Oct 92 20:28:02 +0100 Received: from vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (vm.hd-net.uni-heidelberg.de) by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.0/SMI-4.0-sc/19.6.92) id AA01172; Sun, 4 Oct 92 20:27:23 +0100 Message-Id: <9210041927.AA01172@sc.zib-berlin.dbp.de> Received: from DHDURZ1 by vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5769; Sun, 04 Oct 92 20:28:08 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 5759; Sun, 04 Oct 92 20:28:03 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 5757; Sun, 04 Oct 92 20:27:59 CET Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 20:27:36 CET From: bbeeton Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of Subject: re: dsssl Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 838 several people have asked recently where can one obtain a copy of the dsssl (document style semantics and specification language) standard, preferably electronically. having just returned from three weeks of meetings of committees responsible for writing this standard, i think i can provide more-or-less authoritative information. the ballot on the dis (draft international standard) received enough positive votes for the document to be accepted as an international standard, subject to satisfactory disposition of the comments that accompanied the ballot. as with previous ballots those comments were copious. in addition, the committee identified some sections that they felt were overly weak, and agreed among themselves that, rather than simply make the changes from the comments, a better standard would result if they also made the additional changes; however, doing this will require a second dis ballot (formally 3 months, actually, about 5 months, including processing by the secretariat of the relevant standards committee). it is my understanding that the new version will be ready to be sent for processing and a new ballot after the january '93 meeting of the responsible working group (wg8). i further understand that if the ballot on the new version passes, the new version (with possible edits in response to comments) will become the standard text, otherwise the previously approved version will be edited to respond to the comments on its approved ballot and submitted for publication; the decision to follow this route is the prerogative of the committee and its editor, sharon adler. there are thus several reasons why it is highly unlikely that any version, and especially an electronic one, would be available to anyone outside the committee at this point. releasing any version, even one well-marked as "draft, do not base any implementation on this document", would be too susceptible to confusion, as the final version will likely be quite different in some important respects. as for michael, since we are employed by the same organization, and within ansi and iso committees participants represent their employers, i have no problem lending him the most recent copy i have, which is dated in 1991; however, i don't feel i have the authority to send any copies elsewhere. if anyone else really feels that obtaining a copy is urgent, i am willing to provide the name and address of the editor so that anyone asking can make his/her own case. since someone also mentioned spdl (standard page description language), i can report that the text is now undergoing final editing, and after it has been reviewed by wg8 at their january meeting, it will be forwarded (electronically, as a file marked up with sgml) to the iso central secretariat for publication; the iso processing usually takes a couple of months. -- bb