X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1992" "Thu" "1" "October" "92" "14:15:15" "EDT" "Michael Barr" "barr@TRIPLES.MATH.MCGILL.CA" nil "42" "How to get rid of most users of TeX" "^Date:" nil nil "10"]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (serv01) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/1.9.92 ) id AA06578; Thu, 1 Oct 92 19:21:16 +0100 Received: from vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (vm.hd-net.uni-heidelberg.de) by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.0/SMI-4.0-sc/19.6.92) id AA23775; Thu, 1 Oct 92 19:20:45 +0100 Message-Id: <9210011820.AA23775@sc.zib-berlin.dbp.de> Received: from DHDURZ1 by vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3905; Thu, 01 Oct 92 19:21:22 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 3892; Thu, 01 Oct 92 19:21:20 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 3888; Thu, 01 Oct 92 19:21:16 CET Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 14:15:15 EDT From: Michael Barr Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of Subject: How to get rid of most users of TeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 818 Subject: Re: picture mode in LaTeX3/additional fonts in distribution > >>> Not everyone has MF. > > While I agree that ``not everyone who has TeX has a PostScript printer'', > surely the one thing that we _can_ assume is that everyone who has TeX > has MetaFont? If they haven't, they d@mn well ought to have! > > Philip Taylor, RHBNC. > Well I don't. More precisely, since I have the full emtex distribution, I had it but discarded it to save disk space. That's all I have time for, a new program that, from the mail that comes about it, is *much* harder to use than TeX and for which the documentation is much less satisfactory. The TeX community seems bent on shooting itself in the foot. I have seen three proposals this week, each of which would have the effect of getting rid of at least 80% of the TeX users: make PS the standard output, let us stop supporting MS-DOS and now make the use of MF required for all TeX users. Let us think in terms of enlarging, not drastically curtailing the use of TeX. A propos of MS-DOS, I do have one suggestion to make. Since MS-DOS does allow only 11 chars in a filename, why do waste three of them to convey exactly 2 bits of information. A font or font related file can have, if I have counted correctly, only 4 possible extensions, tfm, gf, pxl or pk. If there are any I haven't heard of, they can be accomodated by what I suggest. Which is that we use only one byte for the type and the other two bytes of the extension for the design size. Thus cmr10.tfm would be renamed cmr.10m. The other three would be cmr.10g, cmr.10x and cmr.10k respectively. This would require modification to mf and tex, as well as a couple of conversion programs, but the modifications would be minor. I would use .07? for 7 point and so on. The main objection would be for fonts over 99 points, but they are not handled in the current scheme anyway. The upshot would be that all 8 bytes of the name could be used descriptively. Michael Barr