X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1700" "Mon" "14" "September" "92" "07:31:45" "CET" "Don Hosek" "DHOSEK@HMCVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU" nil "47" "Re: Section headings" "^Date:" nil nil "9"]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (serv01) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/1.9.92 ) id AA04099; Mon, 14 Sep 92 07:36:36 +0200 Received: from vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.0/SMI-4.0-sc/19.6.92) id AA22583; Mon, 14 Sep 92 07:36:28 +0200 Message-Id: <9209140536.AA22583@sc.zib-berlin.dbp.de> Received: from DHDURZ1 by vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0188; Mon, 14 Sep 92 07:32:13 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 0169; Mon, 14 Sep 92 07:32:10 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 0164; Mon, 14 Sep 92 07:32:05 CET Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 07:31:45 CET From: Don Hosek Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of Subject: Re: Section headings Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 767 -> - Secretaries complain about typing \alpha vs ctrl-shift-alt-a. -> In short, the most common LaTeX users want to minimize -> keystrokes. Keep this in mind when proposing schemes for -> markup. -Ours dont! but then I guess they arent secretaries, they are -professional document processors, these days (and they arent paid by -the keystroke, i am glad to say)!. -And you can always make their preferred keying produce the right thing. Who is the "you" in this statement? Also remember the original context of this point: someone suggested a \begin...\end structure as a replacement for \section etc. as a way to make certain coding tasks easier. Well, since we want to preserve the old markup through a compatibility scheme, so much for the markup savings. . -> (when was the last time -> you saw somebody use \begin{math}...\end{math} -two weeks ago in Amsterdam (but I dont usually look at what -people are using). I do. -> (which, by the -> way, seems to have a bug. Try typing -> xxx \begin{math} x \end{math} xxx -> and see what happens (I didn't just break the rules by slipping -> that in, did I Frank? -> It does prove a point though since this bug has apparently -> gone unnoticed for no fewer than three years. Maybe longer. -If you mean the lack of space after it, then it has been noticed and -corrected (more than once, but like the best bugs it didnt get done -right, somehow!). -BTW, the bug is in \begin, not \math, etc. Perhaps I'm a bit daft but it's mentioned nowhere in my copy of latex.bug under "math", "\begin" or "\end" (well, actually there's a comment on the interaction of \label, \index, etc. and \end, but otherwise nothing). -dh