X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1569" "Fri" "11" "September" "92" "20:02:52" "BST" "CA_ROWLEY@VAX.ACS.OPEN.AC.UK" "CA_ROWLEY@VAX.ACS.OPEN.AC.UK" nil "41" "RE: Section headings" "^Date:" nil nil "9"]) Return-Path: Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (serv01) by dagobert.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.1/SMI-4.0/1.9.92 ) id AA02998; Fri, 11 Sep 92 21:06:44 +0200 Received: from vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (4.0/SMI-4.0-sc/19.6.92) id AA18821; Fri, 11 Sep 92 21:06:26 +0200 Message-Id: <9209111906.AA18821@sc.zib-berlin.dbp.de> Received: from DHDURZ1 by vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8830; Fri, 11 Sep 92 21:02:43 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 8819; Fri, 11 Sep 92 21:02:38 CET Received: from DHDURZ1 by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 8809; Fri, 11 Sep 92 21:02:34 CET Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 20:02:52 BST From: CA_ROWLEY@VAX.ACS.OPEN.AC.UK Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of Subject: RE: Section headings Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 764 Don Hosek wrote: > - Secretaries complain about typing \alpha vs ctrl-shift-alt-a. > In short, the most common LaTeX users want to minimize > keystrokes. Keep this in mind when proposing schemes for > markup. Ours dont! but then I guess they arent secretaries, they are professional document processors, these days (and they arent paid by the keystroke, i am glad to say)!. And you can always make their preferred keying produce the right thing. > - Also, don't propose the \begin...\end scheme as a replacement > for something that can't be 100% replicated using the old > markup scheme. For one thing, that will mean that your > compatibility mode won't be workable. Also, as noted above, > given the choice of a long form and a short form, the majority > of LaTeX users will use the short form short forms they can have: anytime, anywhere (well, almost). > (when was the last time > you saw somebody use \begin{math}...\end{math} two weeks ago in Amsterdam (but I dont usually look at what people are using). > (which, by the > way, seems to have a bug. Try typing > xxx \begin{math} x \end{math} xxx > and see what happens (I didn't just break the rules by slipping > that in, did I Frank? > It does prove a point though since this bug has apparently > gone unnoticed for no fewer than three years. Maybe longer. If you mean the lack of space after it, then it has been noticed and corrected (more than once, but like the best bugs it didnt get done right, somehow!). BTW, the bug is in \begin, not \math, etc. chris