Received: by nummer-3.proteosys id <01C19443.ABD15B4C@nummer-3.proteosys>; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:44:50 +0100 Return-Path: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C19443.ABD15B4C" x-vm-v5-data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil][nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil]) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Citations in footnotes: law publications Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 12:21:54 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Rainer M. Schoepf" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 718 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19443.ABD15B4C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You may remember that my "first write the documentation" effort on short-form citations envisaged some supplementary facilities for = lawyers. I have some experimental facilities ready now but, since I'm not = suggesting that law-specific facilties should be part of the core LaTeX3, I won't distribute them generally. (If any individual who is particularly interested in law e-mails me, I'll let them have a copy of what I've = done. Such people may also wish to read "the blue book", i.e. "A uniform = system of citation" published by the Harvard Law Review Association.) There are some "matters arising": * The structure seems different from that in other disciplines, which seems yet-another-obstacle to automatic conversion from one citation scheme to another (e.g., to hoping that one .sty file could format a = .tex file that uses \cite for author-date, while another .sty file would format the same .tex file for short-form, and another would do it as required by lawyers). * You may remember that, a while back, I suggested that support for multiple indexes is desirable, e.g., via variations like \index[author]{...} and \index[subject]{...}. Well, lawyers have = things like "table of cases", "table of statutes", "table of conventions", = which actually seem like "yet more indexes". E.g., the table of cases is = an index of all pages that contain a reference to each case. (At least, UK law-book authors do. I don't know about other places, but I'm = assuming that non-UK lawyers do the same.) So this would be another situation = in which support for multiple indexes is desirable. We might, for = example, want to allow people to go \index[cases]{...} \index[statutes]{...}. * The books I've seen put such tables in the front matter with a layout like case-specification case-specification case-specification case- specification ...........................................page, = page, page, page, = page possibly subdivided into sections, so something to do such layout = would be nice (assuming that something like makeindex could deliver case-specification/page-list pairs ready to put in that layout). * The blue book advocates reference back to previous footnotes = ("supra") so, in the law analogue of \firstcite{key}, I put a = \label{\thechapter-key} so that a subsequent footnote reference to the same source could go "see = note \ref{\thechapter-key}". This sort of thing could be done for general short-form things (which could help with J"urg Knappen's "wish" for = support for things like "see ref. [n]", if he means "see note [n]".). [I'm assuming here that footnotes start from 1 in each chapter. A book = that had a different convention would require a different \label.] * The blue book seems to support references to forthcoming ("infra") footnotes too, which may be the sort of thing that Sebastian thought might be required. David = Rhead ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19443.ABD15B4C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Citations in footnotes: law publications

You may remember that my "first write the = documentation" effort on
short-form citations envisaged some supplementary = facilities for lawyers.

I have some experimental facilities ready now but, = since I'm not suggesting
that law-specific facilties should be part of the = core LaTeX3, I won't
distribute them generally.  (If any individual = who is particularly
interested in law e-mails me, I'll let them have a = copy of what I've done.
Such people may also wish to read "the blue = book", i.e. "A uniform system
of citation" published by the Harvard Law Review = Association.)

There are some "matters arising":
*  The structure seems different from that in = other disciplines, which
   seems yet-another-obstacle to automatic = conversion from one citation
   scheme to another (e.g., to hoping that = one .sty file could format a .tex
   file that uses \cite for author-date, = while another .sty file would
   format the same .tex file for = short-form, and another would do it
   as required by lawyers).
*  You may remember that, a while back, I = suggested that support for
   multiple indexes is desirable, e.g., via = variations like
   \index[author]{...} and = \index[subject]{...}.  Well, lawyers have things
   like "table of cases", = "table of statutes", "table of conventions", = which
   actually seem like "yet more = indexes".  E.g., the table of cases is an
   index of all pages that contain a = reference to each case.  (At least,
   UK law-book authors do.  I don't = know about other places, but I'm assuming
   that non-UK lawyers do the same.) So = this would be another situation in
   which support for multiple indexes is = desirable.  We might, for example,
   want to allow people to go = \index[cases]{...} \index[statutes]{...}.
*  The books I've seen put such tables in the = front matter with a layout
   like
     case-specification = case-specification case-specification case-
     specification = ...........................................page, page, page,
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;    page, page
   possibly subdivided into sections, so = something to do such layout would be
   nice (assuming that something like = makeindex could deliver
   case-specification/page-list pairs ready = to put in that layout).
*  The blue book advocates reference back to = previous footnotes ("supra") so,
   in the law analogue of \firstcite{key}, = I put a \label{\thechapter-key} so
   that a subsequent footnote reference to = the same source could go "see note
   \ref{\thechapter-key}".  This = sort of thing could be done for general
   short-form things (which could help with = J"urg Knappen's "wish" for support
   for things like "see ref.  = [n]", if he means "see note [n]".).  [I'm
   assuming here that footnotes start from = 1 in each chapter.  A book that had
   a different convention would require a = different \label.]
*  The blue book seems to support references to = forthcoming ("infra")
   footnotes too, which may be the sort of = thing that Sebastian thought
   might be required.

          &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;    David Rhead

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