Received: by nummer-3.proteosys id <01C19443.A27FD6D4@nummer-3.proteosys>; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:44:35 +0100 Return-Path: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C19443.A27FD6D4" x-vm-v5-data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil][nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil]) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: {1} 2.09 style-files in archives Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1992 15:53:09 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: Sender: "LaTeX-L Mailing list" To: "Multiple recipients of" Reply-To: "LaTeX-L Mailing list" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 636 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19443.A27FD6D4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Frank said: >> Finally during the beta test phase (or even earlier) I think of >> browsing through all archives and converting the ``most important >> styles'' into new syntax. Some of the stuff in archives gives "bad design" (stuff that "gives one-inch margins for A4" and "does a double-spaced thesis"). I wouldn't have thought that it is worth spending time converting such stuff. (If people whose institutions still ask for "double-spaced theses" start lobbying the relevant committees now, they can get their institutions' regulations changed by the time LaTeX 3 comes out. Or are things worse = in other countries than in the UK?) Some of the stuff in archives is just there to circumvent problems with LaTeX 2.09 ("a conference-proceedings with a reference-list at the end = of each chapter", "a style-option to make things OK for people wanting to = use author-date citation", "a style-option to have \count0 negative when numbering is roman"). If LaTeX 3.0 gets its structures right, there = would be no future need for such circumventions. I'm not sure of the point of some of the other stuff. E.g. (from = memory, I can't get through to Aston at the moment), what is the point of SIAM = and UCTHESIS styles at 10, 11 and 12 point. Which is the SIAM point-size = that is actually used? Does UC really accept theses at 10pt? If there is to be an exercise of converting "styles in archives" into = the new syntax, I would hope that discretion would be exercised and many = styles left unconverted. David = Rhead ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19443.A27FD6D4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable {1} 2.09 style-files in archives

Frank said:
>> Finally during the beta test phase (or even = earlier) I think of
>> browsing through all archives and converting = the ``most important
>> styles'' into new syntax.

Some of the stuff in archives gives "bad = design" (stuff that "gives
one-inch margins for A4" and "does a = double-spaced thesis").  I wouldn't
have thought that it is worth spending time = converting such stuff.  (If
people whose institutions still ask for = "double-spaced theses" start
lobbying the relevant committees now, they can get = their institutions'
regulations changed by the time LaTeX 3 comes = out.  Or are things worse in
other countries than in the UK?)

Some of the stuff in archives is just there to = circumvent problems with
LaTeX 2.09 ("a conference-proceedings with a = reference-list at the end of
each chapter", "a style-option to make = things OK for people wanting to use
author-date citation", "a style-option to = have \count0 negative when
numbering is roman").  If LaTeX 3.0 gets = its structures right, there would
be no future need for such circumventions.

I'm not sure of the point of some of the other = stuff.  E.g.  (from memory,
I can't get through to Aston at the moment), what is = the point of SIAM and
UCTHESIS styles at 10, 11 and 12 point.  Which = is the SIAM point-size that
is actually used?  Does UC really accept theses = at 10pt?

If there is to be an exercise of converting = "styles in archives" into the
new syntax, I would hope that discretion would be = exercised and many styles
left unconverted.

          &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;    David Rhead

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