Received: by nummer-3.proteosys id <01C19443.409654E4@nummer-3.proteosys>; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:41:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 x-vm-v5-data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil t nil][nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil]) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C19443.409654E4" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: publishing-industry standards Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1991 16:10:43 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: Sender: "LaTeX-L Mailing list" To: "Rainer M. Schoepf" Reply-To: "LaTeX-L Mailing list" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 319 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19443.409654E4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris more or less invited me to comment on the point of = publishing-industry standards and SGML. By coincidence, I have been looking at these things = the past week; next week I will be in CERN working on the AAP dtd and = conversions SGML <--> LaTeX. O.K., just a quick reply. Sorry haven't got more time. You can skip everything of this message if you wish, except the part with the ! in column 1. There are no real publishing-industry standards: there is a group of publishers who support the AAP dtd, but the AAP dtd's for scientific = articles and books are not always suited to the needs of publisher X. Therefore, publisher X adapts the AAP dtd to his purposes and (hopefully) tries to = stay as close to the original as possible. [The original, by the way, contains several errors, as was pointed out = in EPSIG News by Derek Coleman and Jan Bleeker of our company.] ! Nevertheless, the AAP dtd's for scientific articles and books serve as = good ! starting points and I would suggest that we try to create document = styles ! that are as close to these dtd's as possible. What you will immediately notice when you try this, is that they contain = much more elements and sub-elements, especially in the front matter. The front-matter elements of LaTeX's standard document styles are totally insufficient. I can understand Michael Downes' attempts at refining this structure -- in fact I've been doing the same here. [Another interesting initiative in the SGML field is the TEI initiative, which is an initiative from the area of humanities and linguistics. A different approach, but draft version 1.1 of TEI P1 contains interesting thoughts.] Nico ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Nico A.F.M. Poppelier Elsevier Science Publishers, APD, R&D Department Sara Burgerhartstraat 25, 1055 KV Amsterdam, The Netherlands Phone: +(20)5862504. Fax: +(20)5862425. Email: n.poppelier@elsevier.nl ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19443.409654E4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable publishing-industry standards

Chris more or less invited me to comment on the point = of publishing-industry
standards and SGML. By coincidence, I have been = looking at these things the
past week; next week I will be in CERN working on the = AAP dtd and conversions
SGML <--> LaTeX.

O.K., just a quick reply. Sorry haven't got more time. = You can skip
everything of this message if you wish, except the = part with the ! in
column 1.

There are no real publishing-industry standards: there = is a group of
publishers who support the AAP dtd, but the AAP dtd's = for scientific articles
and books are not always suited to the needs of = publisher X. Therefore,
publisher X adapts the AAP dtd to his purposes and = (hopefully) tries to stay
as close to the original as possible.

[The original, by the way, contains several errors, as = was pointed out in
EPSIG News by Derek Coleman and Jan Bleeker of our = company.]

! Nevertheless, the AAP dtd's for scientific articles = and books serve as good
! starting points and I would suggest that we try to = create document styles
! that are as close to these dtd's as = possible.

What you will immediately notice when you try this, is = that they contain much
more elements and sub-elements, especially in the = front matter. The
front-matter elements of LaTeX's standard document = styles are totally
insufficient. I can understand Michael Downes' = attempts at refining this
structure -- in fact I've been doing the same = here.

[Another interesting initiative in the SGML field is = the TEI initiative,
which is an initiative from the area of humanities = and linguistics. A
different approach, but draft version 1.1 of TEI P1 = contains interesting
thoughts.]

Nico

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Dr. Nico A.F.M. Poppelier
Elsevier Science Publishers, APD, R&D = Department
Sara Burgerhartstraat 25, 1055 KV Amsterdam, The = Netherlands
Phone: +(20)5862504. Fax: +(20)5862425. Email: = n.poppelier@elsevier.nl

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