Received: by nummer-3.proteosys id <01C19443.3AE2E6FC@nummer-3.proteosys>; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:41:41 +0100 Return-Path: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C19443.3AE2E6FC" x-vm-v5-data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil t t nil][nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil "^From:" nil nil nil]) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-vm-vheader: ("From:" "Sender:" "Resent-From" "To:" "Apparently-To:" "Cc:" "Subject:" "Date:" "Resent-Date:") nil x-vm-bookmark: 1 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Wild things Date: Wed, 2 Jan 1991 21:13:44 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "LaTeX-L Mailing list" Sender: "Leslie Lamport" To: "Rainer M. Schoepf" Reply-To: "LaTeX-L Mailing list" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 268 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19443.3AE2E6FC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Once again, the discussion on LaTeX-L is sailing off into the wild blue yonder. The document style should not try to figure out that because this is the left-hand page of an article for a physics journal edited by a woman, overlong equations should extend to the right. This kind of nonsense will produce 126-megabyte document styles that will exhibit three new bugs per month for ten years. Problems such as things that don't fit on a line require user intervention. They are solved, as the final step in producing a document, by inserting "visual-formating" commands. Instead of all this pie-in-the-sky discussion about how to do everything automagically, how about giving some thought to how the user can EASILY specify where this particular equation or table should be placed on this page of this version of this document. Or, more generally, on how visual-formating commands, which may have to be changed each time a new version is created, should be integrated with the idealogically correct logical-formating commands. Leslie Lamport ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19443.3AE2E6FC Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Wild things

Once again, the discussion on LaTeX-L is sailing off = into the wild blue
yonder.  The document style should not try to = figure out that because
this is the left-hand page of an article for a = physics journal edited
by a woman, overlong equations should extend to the = right.  This kind
of nonsense will produce 126-megabyte document styles = that will exhibit
three new bugs per month for ten years.

Problems such as things that don't fit on a line = require user
intervention.  They are solved, as the final = step in producing a
document, by inserting "visual-formating" = commands.

Instead of all this pie-in-the-sky discussion about = how to do
everything automagically, how about giving some = thought to how the user
can EASILY specify where this particular equation or = table should be
placed on this page of this version of this = document.  Or, more
generally, on how visual-formating commands, which = may have to be
changed each time a new version is created, should be = integrated
with the idealogically correct logical-formating = commands.

Leslie Lamport


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