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To: Rainer Schoepf <BK4@DHDURZ1.uucp>
Date:         Wed, 2 May 90 16:24:44 CET
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Hallo everybody,
let me comment on my one submission since it doesn't had
the desired effect.

  Please reply to the list and not to me if you are
  willing to spend some time in the preparation of such a
  list so that others know this, too. Maybe somebody else
  can tackle letters, proceedings, books etc. at the same
  time?

  I hope everybody of you is eager to grap one of the
  classes and make a first proposal which can then be
  discussed on this list.

Nico is right that we can learn from SGML (at least in some
sense) and what I want is to discuss the different DTD's.
In SGML language one can make a model which describes what is
allowed in what order and so on. The SGML parser will than check
if the document conforms to this model.
In my opinion such checks should not be made by LaTeX but
nevertheless it might be a good idea to discuss DTD's or
(document classes as I call them) in SMGL like syntax. The question
is whether everybody is familar enough with this syntax?

ANSWERRRRRRS pleeeeeease

Another approach could be to make simply a list of commands
together with some comments what the macro is supposed to do and why.
We should not forget that in the end we have to convert things
anyway into LaTeX language.

Or an informal inbetween like, for example:

Commands for describing a titlepage in an article:

title_long        Title which is used on the front page
title_short       Title for running headings (default title_long)

author_name       Separate the old \author command
author_address
author_netaddress

Multiple authors could be handled by repeating the above commands
with some syntax for allowing defaults (same address and so on)

date               (default processing day i.e. \today)

The old \maketitle command is, in my opinion, not necessary because
the placement of the title information should be determined by the
style (for example authors address at the end).
For this we need some internal hooks \everydocument etc. but there
is no need to have the user command.

and so on ....
.......

Still nobody there to make such a proposal for one of the classes?
If I have to do all these things myself I don't know how long it
will take.

Greetings Frank

P.S.
When I said in one of the last messages that I think that there
is not enough response on this list I really meant it.
(Yes Malcolm, there is a `don't care/never thought of it box for you
simply make your cross below.) If we would sit on a table one could
judge from the faces but so things are really difficult if the
answer is only silence. Because this could mean everybody is in
agreement but also everybody don't care.

     __
     | |  I agree (because..)
     --

     __
     | |  I don't know, never thought about
     --

     __
     | |  I don't care
     --                        That's the hard one
                                |
     __                         V
     | |  I don't agree because ......
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