X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil t nil] [nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil]) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 90 19:18:14 CET Reply-To: LaTeX-L Mailing list Sender: LaTeX-L Mailing list From: bbeeton Subject: Re: Suggestions from Utrecht (IV) To: Rainer Schoepf Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 36 frank and rainer have been doing more work on font selection, with specific reqests from the math society to support an amstex substyle of latex fed into the idea mill. there's an article going into tugboat 11#1 about this, and if frank and rainer want me to, i'll be happy to forward it to the list. i won't belabor the general matter, but would like to address the matter of vector. \vec is now assigned (in plain, i believe) to the little arrow "accent" that is used in mathematics journals to denote a vector. the practice in physics is to use a boldface letter to denote the same concept. i suspect, but have no proof, that a context in which boldface is used to denote vector will contain no instances of the arrow accent. (can anyone give a counterexample? note that i did not say that boldface letters (used for other purposes) and arrow accents would not appear in the same context; i think that they may very well -- mathematicians are quite devious when it comes to devising notation, and i don't suspect physicists of being any less so.) under the circumstances, what i suggest is a reasonable approach is to have \vec redefined in the document-specific style file to produce a boldface letter if that is the publisher's style, and an arrow otherwise. then the recommendation to authors to use \vec to denote a vector (and let the style file decide) would have to be well publicized. of course, since \vec is a plain command, then perhaps \Vec would be a reasonable alternative. i think that this is a case where the principles of logical markup should be carried just a bit further than they are usually. also, this is a decision that almost has to be made by the author, and not a keyboarder, even a skilled one, employed by the publisher. (a copyeditor with sufficient background in the field could probably make the decision though; depends on the publisher's policy.) note that systems like mathematica require that the meanings of variables be clear for proper symbolic processing to take place; with the wider adoption of such systems for symbolic manipulation, this sort of thinking should become more natural to authors, and appearance of the marks on the page should then be secondary, and more easily assigned a particular publishing style at the design level. i think it should also be our goal here to encourage such thinking patterns, as opposed to wysiwyg. it may be more demanding, but you get a lot more from it. -- bb -------